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Poster: billydlions Date: Aug 21, 2010 7:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Live Bands...pick a three yr period and explain

Led Zep has to be one of the best of the 70's (72-75 to be exact). Page was the metal version of Jerry- sometimes a little sloppy, but always inspired and one of the few who really improvised and didnt repeat the same solos every time.

Rush didnt really improvise but I'm always amazed at how 3 people could sound so good (kinda like Cream, right WT?). I think Rush was one of the best for a few years in the late 70's/early 80's. After Moving Pictures they were too influenced by the new wave movement of the Police, U2, etc.

It's hard to pick anyone else as I spent all of my money and time on the GD! Jethro Tull?? Ozzy (or Black Sabbath)- for you metal fans (me included)

Edit: OK, I see I didnt respond to your question about a 3 year period but I think you could say around 1974-1976 there was overlap with Led Zep, who still had some really good shows (the Physical Graffiti new tunes) and Rush who were the new kids from Canada-although their best was yet to come. I guess I'll have to give more thought to your question.


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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 21, 2010 9:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Live Bands...pick a three yr period and explain

Hey BDL--I think you are spot on with LedZ, though I didn't care for them at the time. I was as usual, in love with their first album, and rejected everything past the third out of sheer spite to go against the huge following they had developed (BTW, in HS, early 70s, THEY were the band we fought in the "arguments" I've alluded to--ie, we few DEAD defenders generally had to argue how our band was better than LedZ, live).

And from all I've learned here, and from my sons, I think the Rush nomination floats as well, though I again, didn't care for them at the time, and didn't hear as much about the "live!!!" aspect til the past couple yrs.

In a way, what I was getting to was whether the "must see live to appreciate" label is passe? No longer relevant? Just not as common? Dunno...

Thx.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Aug 21, 2010 10:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Live Bands...pick a three yr period and explain

Perhaps Zep became too popular or "commercial". I think back to a Pink Floyd discussion here a year or so ago where the merits of Dark Side were discussed and the difference between overrated vs overplayed. I feel the same way about LZ4. I really cant listen to any songs from that album, largely because the radio has ruined it. Same with some other songs from Houses of the Holy. On the other hand, I think the Song Remans the Same is brilliant. I dont know what kind of editing was done (can anyone chime in on this?) but seeing Page playing is really a treat, especially the title song and Rain Song. He was way ahead of his time with some of the things he was doing (especially studio work). I really enjoy the later work- the less commercial stuff- Graffiti and Presence. Anyway, during the time period of Song Remains the Same, I think they were one of the best live acts. Other than seeing Jerry, they would be one of my first choices to see live.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 21, 2010 1:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Live Bands...pick a three yr period and explain

" On the other hand, I think the Song Remains the Same is brilliant. I dont know what kind of editing was done (can anyone chime in on this?) "

yeah I can. Picked up the "Garden Tapes" awhile back and there's a link talking about which parts of the album are from which show. I don't think but maybe one song is complete. Absolutely insane how much editing was done to a single track. See for yourself.I've always known it was heavily edited, the band did NOT sound that precise and clean by that point ,but it's still an amazing masterpeice from start to finish.

http://www.thegardentapes.co.uk/tgt.html

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Aug 21, 2010 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Live Bands...pick a three yr period and explain

definitely will second Rush. Have you seen that new documentary out? If not it's a must see. Focus is primarily on the older stuff which is the stuff I like. Didn't care for them at all after signals when they let the keyboard become the dominant instrument. Also what else it cool is they are FINALLY getting respect. There are a bunch of interviews from current musicians from today's crew of hard rock - Kirk Hammet, Billy Corgan, Les Claypool, Pantera, Rage Against the Machine, and a bunch I'm forgetting that were heavily influenced by them and heap praise.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Aug 21, 2010 7:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best Live Bands...pick a three yr period and explain

Thanks for that Zep link Jots. You never know what to believe anymore with live releases.

I did see that Rush bio. I never knew that Rush toured with KISS in the early days and became good friends. Lots of other good info on the band as well.